My One Page Dungeon Contest co-conspirator, ChattyDM, is a self-professed aficionado of the "story-driven" "encounter-driven" adventure type. A few days ago, we had a very funny twitter exchange:
ChattyDM: With my summer D&D season starting this week, I may try to let go of scripted homebrewed adventure and try going with just hooks and ideas..
chgowiz: @ChattyDM *gasp* Why.. that sounds like a *whispered* sandbox.
In this post, Phil goes on to say:
The thing is, I’m not interested in doing a classic exploration-based Sandbox game. This actually requires a lot of preparation as you must detail large areas of your setting in order to give your players something to do wherever they go.
That made me sit back a moment and think - did I really prep that much? I'd have to say, "no". Here's why.
1. Just in time preparation
2. One page dungeon levels
3. Write it down - play it on game day
4. Let the players flesh things out
5. Broad brushstrokes to events and plots
6. Don't overprepare
There are a lot of really well done sandbox articles in FightOn! magazine that outline sandbox creation and yes, if you follow the DMG to the letter and prepare many levels, you will have tons of prep needed - but I think that detailed maps and many hexes comes with play. The info I have on Dark Ages now is the accumulation of many months, but in general, I've followed those 6 principles above. So let me elaborate on them a bit.
1. Just in time preparation
A sandbox is inherently player driven. If we go back to D&D's wargaming roots, preparing a sandbox is much like setting up the terrain and starting points of the pieces in a miniatures battle. You have the troops prepared, but you don't know what's going to happen until play begins. I treat a sandbox the same way. I set up the starting points of the dungeons, monsters, set pieces and villians. I may have a note or two about who they are and what's going on. I know the basic rough few sentence outline of what the campaign setting is, but beyond that, I develop it in play.
When I started my Dark Ages sandbox, I had a general idea of the layout of the lands about 5 days travel out. I had three dungeons. I had one town. I had one set piece. Here's the cool part - one of those dungeons is STILL virgin territory for my players (who are now probably scrabbling through notes trying to figure out where it is... ). I had only level 1 done for the dungeons. I didn't even have a map of the town, and only a few NPCs fleshed out.
It worked. The players didn't need a lot of prep to jump and get started. In fact, the first game, my players went to do something I hadn't even thought they'd do! It didn't matter - with the rough ideas of what was where (broad strokes, see that below) and a random encounter, we had a blast and the session was a success.
As the players have moved into places, I've waited to prepare before they got there. When they started exploring the kobold mines in earnest, that's when I started planning/creating the second level. When the players wanted to know more about the town so they could live there, I finally drew a map. As the players meet NPCs and do things, I take notes and factor them into my game as we go along.
That's not to say all details are improvised. As the players move to do things, I try to stay about 1 or 2 steps ahead of them. If my players do something completely unexpected, I can take 5 minutes, toss some notes together, look at my notes from previous games and go with what I have. My 3 ring binder has plenty of loose leaf.
2. One page dungeon levels
The philosophy behind one page dungeon keys is that the DM adds the flavor and plots and "whys and wherefores" at the table. That neatly fits in with "just in time preparation" because now I can just draw a map, populate it using AD&D or OD&D guidelines and boom, done. When the players get to that point, I can look at what's happened, my broad brush strokes, and go from there.
For instance, my kobold mines. I had cavemen on one side, kobolds on the other. I had no real idea how it would work. I didn't plot things out. However, it turned out the kobolds and cavemen were fighting over the cave. The kobolds were scared of level 2 because of the ancient Dwarf ruins on level 2. One of the cavemen fell down a hole and died and the cavemen buried the hole because evil came out of it. The kobolds made some attempts to recapture the mines but failed. The cavemen fled the caves. This all came out as game-day decisions and play and reactions what the players did. I didn't pre-plot this because I didn't need to. I had broad brush strokes and let the game spin it out.
3. Write it down - play it out on game day
That being said, I write down all my crazy ideas and meanderings and my notes. Again, I don't try to detail things out so much until it has to be detailed out, usually in reaction to what the players do. I think that what has happened is the preparation is substituted for reaction notes and reminders and post-game-details. This reinforces the "players drive it" attitude.
Example - the players found a book. They read it and wanted to know what it mean. I told them, based on vague ideas, but I noted on my notes what I said - now there's an entry for this book in my notes so that if the players come back to it, I know what it is.
I also send myself emails or write things in my wiki when they occur to me. It's a bit like mind-mapping, but without all the buzz words.
4. Let the players flesh things out
When I first created Dark Ages, I had no clue what I wanted to do with demihumans, save minimize their involvement in the world - for now. I had no idea on what kind of history I wanted for them. So I let the players tell me. I came up with broad guidelines. I know what won't work for player ideas - and I let them run with it.
I don't want to give away any spoilers, but the littleling (halfling) backstory that one of my players came up with rocks. It's full of puns, but it's really cool. The elf history and story is continuing to be written, but I riff based on what my players give me.
My deities - all player decided, save for the Church of Light - and I've adjusted that based on what the players saw and how the Church presented in game. In fact, one of the players is now a cleric of the Light and it's going to be interesting to see how she maps out how she interprets the Light. I don't expect her to give me 50 pages of notes, but I'm going to go based on how she goes, within the general idea that I have for the Light.
5. Broad brushstrokes
There's a major, huge area to my game - the city of Irecia. Players are DYING to go there, but they know it's seriously in the whilly-whacks in terms of probably being very dangerous. Do I have the city mapped out and populated? Nope. However, I do know this - Irecia was the "diamond of the East" and a beautiful city for learning. I know it was a fairly civilized place. I know there are probably sewers. I know some of the bad mojo that has happened. That's all I need, though, because that sets the stage for "just in time preparation". I also am not locked into something - if the players do something or something changes in the game, I can take that into account going forward.
My broad brushstrokes also apply to events and plots. Yes, I do have a "ticking clock" of sorts in the campaign, but it's not a detailed flowchart - it's broad strokes that I fill in when needed. Although the players drive the plot, the world does continue to evolve and turn around them. There are some things that may happen as the players do things, and there are some things that will happen no matter what. For instance, the Doom in my Dark Ages game was heralded by meteor showers. I knew I wanted to play on that theme. When I realized that in my game calendar the end of summer was approaching, I decided to have a Summer's End Festival (another just in time creation) - and then I decided to have the shooting stars appear and one of the "sensitive" town NPCs go mad. Now the players have something to chew on - the world is doing stuff. What does it mean?
Another example - the first game. I knew that goblins were in the Darkwoods and they had patrols and various camps. I knew they were sparring with the kobolds. That's it. So the players decided to check out the goblins based on some rumors. Uhh... whut? I was so shocked, but I knew they'd run into a goblin patrol - and they did, and it was a good game. I didn't have the encounter planned out to where exactly the left foot would slide on the fourth goblin to the left in the fifth segment of the second round. Nope... buncha goblins who'd rather be camping than marching run into humans that they haven't seen in 50 years. Battle ensues.
6. Don't over-prepare
I think this is a discipline thing. I mean, you look at Gygax's words himself from 1974:
"First, the referee must draw out a minimum of half a dozen maps of the levels of his “underworld”, people them with monsters of various horrid aspect, distribute treasure accordingly, and note the location of the latter two on keys, each corresponding to the appropriate level."
I know that would make me think I had to know the details down to how many pimples are on my troll-mage's arse. (Note, I have no idea. A lot? My players want to know... as they mount his head on a spike... and that day will come...) I've since learned that while it helps to know the areas surrounding, I don't need to have everything detailed out. Only when I need it.
That being said, you do have some prep. You have to know the area around the "home base". You have to have some places for the players to go. You have to have an idea of what else is out there. I prepared a couple of random encounter charts for the Darkwoods and Dalewoods. That helps me to fill in if needs be (like the Damned attacking Enonia...)
Oh and hooks? I came up with a dozen or so rumors, based on the locations and my broad brush strokes. The players started exploring on their own. As they do things, and the world changes, I provide new rumors, or lay out new hooks (like the battle between cavemen and kobolds, or the sacking of the New Hope settlement, or the Damned attacking, or the strange goings on in the monastery, as a result of the players going there) based on what is going on. That's the nice thing - I can be reactive more than I have to be proactive - because the players are the actors and the drivers, not my story. The campaign is their story.
Summary -
A lot of this might seem like improv and I guess you could call it "inspired improv within a broad guideline" - I fill in the details where needed and I try not to over-reach. Otherwise, I'd never get a campaign off the ground.
You know... maybe we should do this together and prep the Ultima setting for my Ultima rules/sandbox.
[Edited to add - I'd be remiss if I didn't point you to this just-in-time hex map creation technique from the microlite20 Macropedia - a very nice resource and awesome game to boot.)
20 comments:
Sounds like we work much the same way. Couldn't have put it better myself.
And thanks for the Microlite20 link-love - I will be returning to M20 with a vengeance, Real Soon :D
What Greyulf said...though my notes are so haphazard as to be mainly lost in the mists of time. All that remains is maps.
Sandbox play was never high stress; this is probably why I never got into plot-based play.
It seems a lot of us think in similar terms:
* http://thegrandtapestry.blogspot.com/2009/04/rpg-encounters-by-environment.html
* http://thegrandtapestry.blogspot.com/2009/04/c-copyright-2009-kyrinn-s.html
Exactly.
I've seen similar comments ("sandbox prep takes too much work!") before. I always intended to reply that they really didn't. Now I'm glad I waited; you put it much better than I would have.
Verification word: gralfid (Now that's a wizard's name if I ever heard one...)
Good post. I actually called Chatty on that very bit of text in the comments to his blog. I was kind of surprised he didn't already know better, honestly. :) I think that just goes to show you most people still don't "get" a lot of the reasons and methods behind some of the old school playstyle, such as sandbox campaigning. They are approaching it from a new school standpoint and bringing some mistaken preconceived ideas to their understanding.
Submit this to Fight On or Knockspell?
I think we all get comfortable with what we know and like to use. I could munge my way through 4E style of campaign building, but I'd need to try and learn and get experience to be comfortable with it. That's why supplements like the aforementioned DM's Toolkit was very popular.
I go to far and forget to design the dungeons as well :S
Excellent post that I will be reading and re-reading often in the weeks to come.
Like Anon says, I do have pre-conceived notions about sandbox gaming because I haven't played like that since I was a teenager.
But I'm tackling my summer campaign to explore Sandbox gaming, by slowly stepping away from scripted scenes/events.
Wish me luck.
Great, inspiring stuff! I have vague notions of throwing my players into an 1e sandbox sometime soon, and I was already over-thinking the blasted thing.
You write Good Wisdom here, and I think such broad strokes and impromptu plotting/building are exactly what I'd love to sink my teeth into.
Coming from not old-school sandbox play, this is all very hard for story path plotters to fathom.
It's hard to let go of the plot and the idea you need a plot. Very scary to be so freeform, loose, and not *know* what will happen. Difficult to believe game will be spontaneously fun without DM driving a plot.
Also some(many?) people are no good at improvisation. And I bet those people gravitate towards pre-plotted story path type style in the first place.
Recently, in my campaign the characters spent time in "Dungeon Land" alt dimension. A "mega dungeon" I generated on the fly using The DMG random dungeon gen. And the "by level" encounter charts. And I totally get it now, I think. Everything below was random die roll.
Celestial, Varel. It's god stuck it here as a "lesson". It's waiting for? The chalice knight to bring it the chalice! So, I write down 'future encounter with a "chalice knight"'.
Later shorty after Varel's deathI roll a devil. Ah, it came cause it sensed Varel's death and wants to chat with whoever did the deed (not the PC's btw) Ok, noted.
Random dungeon generation rolled a chasm and bridge across it. Great! chasm is filled with lava. Chalice knight is fighting too many bad guys on the bridge players arrive in time to save him! His story is the devil has enslaved his world and the chalice is key to it's freedom, must get it to the Chalice Guardian, the now dead Varel.
It kept building from there drawing in other random encounters, dungeon rolls, and player (in)actions.
I had similar spontaneous plot with a Djinn and later his Efreti "cousin".
Once I needed a "motivation" for an NPC, nothing came to mind so I grabbed a random NPC trait, agenda, secrets, etc. chart and rolled. It was awesome result, one I'd never think of.
Embracing the random chart, is I believe, a key skill for improvised DMing. Another is understanding that chart results are not rules / should be ignored unless they "fit". Also very important knowing when to not use a random chart.
I personally view Sandbox games require the least work, even if you like to prepare heavily. I force the players to drive the plot-wagon to me, not the other way around. I wouldn't have it any other way (usually)
Great stuff, Chgo. I'm going to paste your rules to my DM screen. I'm really trying to streamline my prep, and allow myself to roll with the punches at the table.
Any hints on note-taking that doesn't interrupt game flow?
@anarkeith - I find that there are usually enough pauses to jot down notes - and usually I will scribble something as I am talking. My players have come used to it, and it doesn't seem to interrupt the game too much (perhaps one of my players will comment here on this.)
I don't write down word for word during the game, I tend to write down keywords and then fill in later. I also have some abbreviations I'll use in the margins to point things out like circled exclamation points for something important or XP circled for notations on monsters killed or dollar signs circled to indicate treausure to account for/calculate XP from.
I'll also note NPC names. One bit of prep that I have done is to print out about 100 or so names from the random name generators and then use them at random during the game. As the players encounter them, I'll jot something about them in the town section of my notes. I'll go back later and reorganize.
I googled for the opposite of preparation and guessed that somebody must have used postparation. And indeed, somebody has: "Pre-paration is what we do before we start a job. Post-paration is what we do after we do the job. Completing all the postparation immediately after the job is what generates the feeling of well deserved relaxation."
Taking shorthand notes during the game, and making them readable after the game are mandatory for my games. Otherwise I'd forget. Since everything new happens at the gaming table, I can just add these little notes to our campaign wiki after the game.
It's great. It works. It's not "prep" but it's still a little bit of work. But since it comes after the fact it doesn't railroad anybody.
Amen Chgo! You do pretty much what I do! I also allow the players to create the world around them, saves work for me^_^ One thing I have the PC's do, is if they see a NPC they really like, they jot it down in their notes and let me know.. Then I develop that NPC more rather than letting them fade into the background. That NPC can be a contact for future adventures, knowledge, etc.
Definitely a praise-worthy post. You describe a style of gaming that is perhaps the least preparation-intensive out there (with the exception of the pure make it up by the seat of your pants as you go style). I practice a similar philosophy but if anything do even less work - I never detail even the first level of any dungeon/ruins, etc. How do I handle it if the party decides to head of to one of those places? What I do is to make sure that I have several encounter areas prepared at all times that I do not have tied to the map. If the party sets off towards dungeon A and I don't have anything ready, I look over the encounter areas that I have prepared and choose one to insert in their path. I mark it on the map and from that point on, that point on the map is the grove of trees with the giant aphids on them... tended by the giant two-headed ants that harvest their honey. Or whatever the case was. The point is, if you don't tie down an encounter area to a specific spot on the map you are ensuring that you are not doing wasted work. You can use everything you prepare, because you get to decide when the party encounters it - and from the other side of the screen, the illusion is perfect and the player's assume that you have fully detailed the entire countryside! How else could you have detailed encounters and sites mapped out no matter what way they travel? Then, after filling the session with these diversions, I can prepare the dungeon or what have you that I now know the party is intent on exploring. My goal is zero wasted prep time- I want everything I prepare to get utilized (I have come to this style gradually after over preparing in the past and seeing vast swathes of loving detailed countryside get totally ignored as the party found something to do that I had not anticipated at all - this also led to the temptation to railroad the party into specific areas that I had prepared because I couldn't stand to see them go unexplored).
@Alex - on of my biggest problems as a DM is that I get too excited. I get into the combat, or I get into the moment and then when it's over, I completely forget things. That's why I try to write down room by room, encounter by encounter, at least 2 to 3 words. Then I can go back and fill it in. I'm successful at this about 30% of the time.
@carl - awesome idea. I am stealing this. I do use published modules in somewhat of this manner, although I usually place them. I like your idea a lot. It's a great way to reuse stuff I see here on the Internet.
Revisiting this post, I find myself wondering about the term “set piece”. I’m wondering what you mean by that.
@Robert - that's a great question.. see about two comments above where Carl describes it quite well. It's worked for me very well since that suggestion - I have a few small set pieces that I can use for small situations or interesting encounters if needs be.
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